Breaking Barings | Interview: John Gapper | 4
British Scandal
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🗓️ 16 August 2021
⏱️ 45 minutes
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How can one man bring down a bank? Financial Times journalist John Gapper covered the Nick Leeson story at the time and co-wrote All That Glitters: The Fall of Barings. He joins Alice and Matt to talk about the phenomenon of the Rogue Trader.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, Prime Members. You can listen to British Scandal at free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. |
| 0:06.0 | From Wondery, I'm Matt Ford and I'm Alice Levine and this is British Scandal. |
| 0:26.0 | Over the last few weeks we've been telling the tense nail-biting absurd story of Nick Leeson. |
| 0:38.0 | How he ran up losses of more than £800 million while he was working as a trader for Bearing's Bank and how he went on the run and developed a quite disturbing taste for fruit pastels. |
| 0:48.0 | The only 28 of the time, although all the sweets and kindregs do make him sound like he's probably only 12. |
| 1:00.0 | If you're ever short of cash, call Brenda, that's Brenda in London, she seems pretty chill, she'll give it to you. And if for some reason you become a fugitive, then make sure they miss by your name on the plane ticket and your home dry. |
| 1:16.0 | I love how you've taken away all the tips that would help you get away. |
| 1:20.0 | Oh yeah, wait a sec. Do I want to be a rogue trader? |
| 1:24.0 | Well, be warned, because Leeson ended up being sent to prison in Singapore for six and a half years. |
| 1:30.0 | And as a Bearing's, after centuries of history, Britain's oldest bank collapsed and it was later bought for £1, which incidentally is the price of a Kindergarten. |
| 1:38.0 | There's something very full circle about that, which is probably what they spent it on in fairness. |
| 1:42.0 | So how could such a distinguished institution be destroyed, apparently almost overnight by the reckless gambles of a single trader and could it happen again? |
| 1:52.0 | One man who covered this story at the time is John Gapper. He's business columnist at the Financial Times and co-wrote the best book about the Leeson Affair, all that glitters the fall of Bearing's. |
| 2:02.0 | If you want to know more, it's definitely worth a read. |
| 2:05.0 | John is also an expert on traders who've gone bad and wrote about them in his latest book, How to Be a Rogue Trader. We'll be talking to him next. |
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