I'm I'm going to be. I'm going to. Welcome to NMR. I'm just going to get straight to it because this is so important that I feel like I can't even joke up tot.

John, it has sort of come full circle of podcasting community.

Oh my God.

Adnan Syed, the subject of 2014 serial podcast, which essentially I think was one of a pivotal moments of putting true crime on the map for a lot of people.

Robbie O'Chadry, good friend of ours.

Adnan is, Adnan is a, is a free man.

He gets to go home and there's details about that, but I think we can confidently say right now, like,

yeah, he's a free man.

I'm sort of speechless. Darren and I jumped on the microphone as soon as we possibly could. Darren's hair's still a little wet. I think she just got out of shower, it looks like. No, I was walking to like go do errands and like first time out of the door today, torrential down, torrential downpour when I got home. Oh, no. This is rain in your hair? And you and I were texting. And I was like, I was like posting in the rain about it. And then I came right back here to come hop on the mic with you. So. Yeah. I will say this. Yeah, worth it. Thank you for doing that. I mean, it's been 23 years. And some might say it's been a few moments later. Okay, a few moments later, as Darren would say. Some might say that. Some might say that.

I mean, where do we begin? I mean, my first, I mean, let's get our initial reactions. I kind of put that towards the end of our agenda here today.

But really, let's talk about it up top before we get into the details about how this happened.

I mean, I'll go first.

I mean, I can't believe we're recording this episode.

I mean.

I guess I can believe it, but I can't believe it so soon. Soon. I know.

That's a good. I mean, and by the way, serial came out 2014. That's been eight years. It's been

23 years since he was convicted. I've been saying this all along, Darren, you've been saying this.

We get this question all the time at CrimeCon and appearances is what do we think about Adnan Syed? And you and I have always maintained. And when people ask me, specifically, what's the case that sticks out to me? I always have said the Adnan Syed case, I know you can back me up about that because it just felt like such an injustice and the question

that we always get was well do you think he did it and i said here's the thing and i and you've said

this so i'm speaking on behalf of both of us here what the what has happened today in court has been

the exact same scenario since the day he was charged and put in jail, which is they don't have evidence that

Adnan Syed had anything to do with this. For 30 to life, like there's just no conclusive

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