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That UFO Podcast

Breakdown: Narrative wars, Hoax's & Mainstream attacks (Pt.2)

That UFO Podcast

UFOUAPAM

Religion & Spirituality, Science, Other, Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

*Pre-order my new book here: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs *

Pavel Ibarra, host of the Psicoactivo podcast, is back with me to finish our Breakdown of the news which includes:

Current state of Disclosure
Buga Sphere being a hoax?
UFO Narrative wars
Wall Street Journal hit-piece
Mainstream cover-up?
Challenges in UFO Disclosure


Check out Pavel's show: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I am George Knapp listening to that UFO podcast and having one hell of a good time.

0:05.4

Pavel, good for some listener questions before you head off.

0:07.9

Yeah, let's do it. Yeah.

0:10.4

Thank you to everyone who got in touch. I'll try and get through as much as I can here.

0:14.1

And anything I can't, I'll add into the listener ramble that's coming out in a couple of days' time.

0:19.5

So let's crack on.

0:21.9

Though Dubs 2 from the Discord said,

0:24.3

and I think this is a good way to start or end,

0:26.1

so we'll start with it.

0:27.5

Rather than a question about a specific event,

0:29.9

I'd love to hear your thoughts on where all of these events

0:32.3

broadly leave UFO world.

0:34.5

It seems to me that despite so much happening,

0:36.8

we are in disarray. Some of the

0:38.6

topics most trusted voices are increasingly suspect and government involvement has done more

0:43.4

to obscure than reveal. Given all of this, what's the current state of disclosure? So,

0:48.9

Pavel, I'll throw that over to you first. Putting you on the spot here, but for you, what's your

0:53.7

hot take on the current state

0:55.6

of disclosure? Well, since I started looking at this and saw the effort that was being made

1:02.4

from an official capacity from the government, I honestly never really had high hopes for it.

1:09.8

I know that it would be something that would have a major impact if it was completely acknowledged.

1:16.9

If that legislation had passed, that would have been huge, but it didn't pass as it was intended.

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