BREAKDOWN: How Much Privacy and Decentralization Really Matter, Feat. Jill Gunter
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4.8 • 689 Ratings
🗓️ 11 August 2022
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
The investor and crypto privacy entrepreneur reflects on the Tornado Cash sanctions.
This episode is sponsored by Nexo.io, Chainalysis, FTX US and NEAR.
NLW is joined today by Jill Gunter, the chief strategy officer at Espresso Systems. In this conversation, they discuss why the U.S. Treasury Department might have chosen an action that seemingly leaves them open to much legal recourse, and why part of the answer might be technological not political.
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“The Breakdown” is written, produced by and features Nathaniel Whittemore, aka NLW, with editing by Rob Mitchell and research by Scott Hill. Jared Schwartz is our executive producer and our theme music is “Countdown” by Neon Beach. The music you heard today behind our sponsors is “The Now” by Aaron Sprinkle. Image credit: Malte Mueller/Getty Images, modified by CoinDesk. Join the discussion at discord.gg/VrKRrfKCz8.
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| 0:00.0 | privacy in crypto, unfortunately, has become close to synonymous with illicit activities. |
| 0:06.4 | And that need not be the case. |
| 0:07.9 | You know, we have the tools in the technology to make it so that there can be more nuance. |
| 0:12.2 | It's certainly desirable to have full privacy, even governmental level privacy. |
| 0:17.0 | If you are a dissident in Hong Kong trying to raise funds or if you're a women's rights |
| 0:22.8 | activist in Nigeria trying to raise funds or I hate to say it if you're North Korea trying |
| 0:28.2 | to money wander. Welcome back to The Breakdown with me, NLW. It's a daily podcast on macro, |
| 0:37.3 | Bitcoin, and the big picture power shifts |
| 0:39.1 | remaking our world. The breakdown is sponsored by nexus.i.o, chain aliasis and FtX, and produced |
| 0:45.3 | and distributed by CoinDesk. What's going on, guys? It is Thursday, August 11th, and today |
| 0:52.4 | we are discussing how much privacy and decentralization |
| 0:55.6 | really matter. Before we get into that, however, if you are enjoying the breakdown, please go |
| 1:00.5 | subscribe to it, give it a rating, give it a review, or if you want to dig deeper into the |
| 1:04.4 | conversation, come join us on the Breakers Discord. You can find a link in the show notes or go |
| 1:08.7 | to bit.ly slash breakdown pod. Also a disclosure, as always, in addition to them being a sponsor of the show notes or go to bit.ly slash breakdown pod. |
| 1:16.0 | Also a disclosure, as always, in addition to them being a sponsor of the show, I also work with FTX. |
| 1:20.1 | Finally, this week, I am thrilled to welcome NIR as an additional sponsor. |
| 1:24.7 | NIR is a revolutionary yet simple Web3 platform for building decentralized apps. |
| 1:29.9 | Designed by developers, four developers, over 700 projects are now building on NIR's fast, |
| 1:31.7 | secure, and scalable protocol. |
| 1:36.2 | Whether you're a crypto-native launching defy apps, NFT marketplaces, and play and earn games, or looking to migrate your project from Web 2, NIR makes it easy to build Web 3 |
| 1:41.1 | for the masses. |
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