This is Jim Sommer then and you are listening to That UFO Podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to That UFO Podcast.

My name is Andy and for a bumper breakdown looking at some events from

October and into November now 2023 I'm joined by Dan. Dan welcome back.

Hello hello yeah big few weeks and a big week ahead of us too.

Dan, question for you?

Actually, more of a demand, can you sit back a little bit from your microphone?

Oh yeah, for sure.

Your sound wave was huge there, and that's not a compliment.

Ah, you beat me's at the joke.

A massive soundwave, very lucky.

No, no, thank you very much.

So yeah Dan, lots to go through, it's been a week or two.

It kind of piled up and even, I think some of the news, even on your side probably became irrelevant over the last week or two because what was a little bit of an announcement became the news and things are kind of kicked on a little bit so we have got a

very we could say we're going to go kind of I don't know improvisational here I

don't know how to call it that but I've got notes. To the stars, we'll go to the stars with

that discussion. Yeah we'll have to and we're going to go there at one point actually

about Tom the long news but can we kick off Dan with the David Grush interview that just released in the last day or two with

Icer? If you don't mind, we'll start there. And yeah, so David Grush, Dan, was with Paula Gazardi and Roberto Peñotti.

I probably butcher the pronunciations there, but you get the gist.

They are part of the Iser group. They are also part of the Project Titan San Marino Project.

Folks have heard a little bit about, I'm sure if you haven't,

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