Breakdown: Chaos, Hearings & New UFO Whistleblowers
That UFO Podcast
UFOUAPAM
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🗓️ 21 August 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
Current State of UFO Hearings
Firsthand Witnesses and Their Impact
Potential Witnesses and Their Credibility
Skywatcher and Government Involvement
New Whistleblower and His Claims
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| 0:00.0 | Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast. My name is Andy and joining me for a special |
| 0:23.2 | breakdown to wade through the boggy, murky, swampy waters of the UFO world right now as things |
| 0:30.0 | go a little bit batshit crazy. I've got Pavel Ibarra, the host of the SICO Activo podcast, |
| 0:37.0 | YouTube channel, Wonder Show. Pavel, welcome,, the host of the Secoactivo podcast YouTube channel Wonder Show. |
| 0:39.3 | Pavel, welcome, mate. How are you? |
| 0:42.4 | Good, man. It's a shit show, isn't it? |
| 0:45.1 | It is literally the words I used on some of the platforms to ask folks ahead of this to share their |
| 0:50.9 | thoughts or questions and just saying that it is a shit show at the minute, the kind of UFO world. |
| 0:56.6 | And if this is one of those shows where you're looking for us to dive into the past and what happened 10, 15, 20 years ago, it's not going to be that one. |
| 1:04.9 | It's very much the hearing now because we are speeding towards what looks like hearings happening on the 9th of September |
| 1:12.9 | that were delayed from April, May, June and July. |
| 1:16.6 | But it looks like we are getting those hearings finally, what they mean to people, Pavel. |
| 1:23.2 | I think we'll kind of start there, to be honest. |
| 1:25.4 | I think mean different things. |
| 1:27.3 | A couple of years |
| 1:27.9 | ago when we first had wind of upcoming UFO hearings, it was exciting. It was intriguing, |
| 1:36.5 | what was going to happen, who was going to come forward. And since then, I've had a few. And I |
| 1:43.8 | think there's a rather mixed reception as they've went along, maybe to lessening impacts each time potentially. |
| 1:53.4 | I think maybe the grush hearing for most seems to be the one that stands out in people's minds, and we've never quite hit the heights of that again. What do you think |
| 2:03.3 | about that? I think the first hearing with Grush kind of took everybody by surprise. There's a lot |
| 2:10.0 | of people from the side that is trying to keep this a secret that wasn't expecting Grush and |
| 2:16.1 | he came out on News Nation and then came out at the |
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