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Hello and welcome to episode 241.5 of the Big Red Barrel UK podcast. I am Coleman. Hi.

Now before we start off, you're probably wondering just why do we have an episode, an extra half episode of this here podcast?

Well, that's because Mr. Tim Hibbs, he has been conducting a little interview with our good friend Sam Watts from Make Real.

Now, if you cast your mind back to episode 138, titled VR Room, VR Room, that's Tim and I talking to Sam about his upcoming game Radial G, which is, was a, well, it's out now.

It's a cool VR racing game that makes me nauseous just thinking about, but it's a really good game.

And now Make Real have a new game coming out called Lococo Dojo, which you should also go check out, which is another VR title. So I'm going to put it over to Tim and Sam and they're going to have a chat about

loco dojo, Radial G, working with VR, the practical uses of VR, not just for gaming as well.

And it's all pretty damn cool. I've listened to it already and I urge you to do so as well.

So over to Tim and Sam.

I'm here with Sam Watts of various VR fame.

What's your, actually a couple of title these days, Sam?

Because that's a bit complicated.

Okay, so when I've been on the show before,

I have been game producer for Tamika,

the sister company that we co-own that works solely on

the regular G series of games. But I'm here today and in general as director of immersive

technologies, which is my fancy new title, for the company actually pays my wages, Make Real.

And as part of that, you've released a new game, which will come on into a second. Obviously, you've been on the show before talking about Radio G, and that's where we've been... And I think this is the third time you've joined us. And in general, I think it's fair to say that you're a bit of a VR guru and expert. Is that fair enough?

Well, I don't like to use the term VR expert.

Okay.

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