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The World Next Week

Brazil’s Lula visits China, Earth Hour, Second Summit for Democracy, and More

The World Next Week

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News, News:politics

4.6845 Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2023

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva meets with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing, China to discuss Brazil-China economic ties; millions of people around the world switch off their lights for 60 minutes to celebrate Earth Hour; and the United States, Costa Rica, the Netherlands, South Korea, and Zambia co-host the second Summit for Democracy.   Mentioned on the Podcast   Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Climate Change 2023: Synthesis Report    Michelle Gavin, “Zimbabwe Limps Toward Elections,” CFR.org   Joshua Kurlantzick, “Thailand’s Parliament Has Been Dissolved: Elections Loom, But Will They Be Free?,” CFR.org   For an episode transcript and show notes, visit us at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/brazils-lula-visits-china-earth-hour-second-summit-democracy-and-more

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0:00.0

In the coming week, Brazil's President Lula visits China.

0:07.0

People around the world take part in Earth Hour, and the second summit for democracy is held.

0:13.0

It's March 23, 2003, in time for the world next week. I'm Bob McMahon. And I'm Carly Ann Robbins.

0:28.3

Bob, let's start in Beijing, where next week, Xi Jinping will host Brazil's president,

0:32.4

Lula. This follows Xi's red carpet tour of Moscow, and China's surprise success brokering a maybe

0:38.1

rapprochement between Iran and Saudi Arabia. She's clearly eager to establish his credentials

0:43.0

as a diplomatic player, but what's Lula's interest in this trip? Well, Lula is very interested

0:48.1

in keeping the ties open with China. Even though he represents a big, vibrant democracy

0:53.3

in China, an increasingly authoritarian

0:55.3

country. He is going to continue to try to keep these ties open. These are the countries, by the way,

1:00.3

that are the B and the C and the Bricks movement, which is still a thing. And we should note that

1:05.5

Lula has been twice before visited China in an official capacity as president. He's coming with a delegation of

1:11.4

something like 240 business representatives. This is a big trade relationship. 22 bilateral

1:17.4

trade between the two countries was $172 billion. If you compare that to the U.S. Brazil,

1:22.6

which was 88 billion, you see the scale of this. So twice the bilateral trade relationship

1:27.2

and volume of the

1:28.4

U.S.-Brazil relationship.

1:30.3

And he wants to say Brazil and China are back in business.

1:33.9

Bolsonaro had a pretty cagey relationship with China, on the one hand, acknowledging the

1:39.9

many things that China could deliver, but he was also, in his own way, wary of China as a country

1:46.2

that he saw as sort of taking advantage of Brazil.

1:50.1

And he was, you know, in his reputation as Trump of the Tropics, Bolsonaro was trying to

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