Hey, this is Kaya from Bravo. We're Black. Don't worry, we're not changing anything up.

Aaron has not quit the podcast, and I haven't done a succession style hostile takeover.

You're actually listening to an episode of Bravo, I'm Black, where two to three times a week,

I set out on a solo bite to talk pop culture,

lifestyle, and everything in between. If you're just here for the classic episodes, come back

on Wednesdays and Saturdays. Now let's start some chaos. Hey, so this is going to be hard to

hear because I am a girl's girl.

And I still am a girl's girl, but Carl isn't that bad.

I'm sorry.

I understand that you guys are digging up things.

I understand that you guys are saying that he is saying everything to make Lindsay look bad.

And I also agree, like, that whole luggage thing was childish as hell, especially for someone

that you're going to marry. But I feel like his mind was like made up then.

But I think when it comes to the argument, and I want to be clear, like, I'm not on

Carl's side.

I'm not on anyone's side.

I think that the argument that we started here was that he blindsided Lindsay with this whole breaking up thing.

And my argument is that if I was Lindsay, I would not be blindsided at all.

Because he is constantly telling you, hey, my parents would not marry us. Hey, I feel like I can't talk to you.

Hey, I'm not on crack. He's telling this girl all this shit. He's getting mad at like the slightest

things. And you know that you guys are not, you shouldn't be getting married.

You shouldn't be getting married, babe.

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