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Hi, guys, I'm Emma.

And I'm Isabel.

And welcome back to another episode of Kama's by Bravo.

Hey, is.

Hi, Em.

I just got to start by saying it is so deeply important to me that everyone who listens to this podcast also watch the

Las Culturistas Culture Awards because those are our people. It's like if you listen to that,

you watch that and you got it. I had such a spiritual experience watching that because the niche

references and understanding, it felt like someone had crawled into my

brain and was expressing thoughts that I didn't even know I had. And it was just so,

there's something about seeing Angie Katznovis like go on the stage and present an award and be

awarded an award and the Salt Lake City Housewives, Paige DeSorbo, Andy,

all the Bravo, but then everything outside of that, the Gabby Windy, the Jake Shane,

the Ben Platt singing Addison Ray. I'm sorry. Like that is literally my idea of heaven.

The reaction that I had to the Salt Lake City women going up is something I'm still trying to put words to.

I'm like, I don't know what it was.

It was a mix between elated and emotional and like just, yeah, I think spiritual is the right word.

I just felt so seen.

The entire thing really just made me feel so seen and I am so happy that existed.

Also, the decision to make Lisa Rina the thread throughout the show modeling the outfit of the

year things. Like, she used Pedro Pascal and the Protect the Dolls. She's Demi Moore in the

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