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Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels

Brandon Tatum: ICE clashes, immigration chaos, race narratives — America is being torn apart on purpose

Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels

Jillian Michaels

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Nutrition, Education

4.43.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Former law enforcement officer turned conservative pundit Brandon Tatum — aka “Officer Tatum” — joins Jillian to break down what the media won’t touch. Why are mobs attacking ICE, Border Patrol, and even the National Guard? Why are criminals being protected while law enforcement is demonized? And how did illegal immigration become a political weapon powerful enough to tear this country apart?  Tatum lays out the ways in which Biden’s open border policies hurt the most vulnerable and then lays out why he believes Republicans must create a legal, accountable pathway to citizenship for law-abiding immigrants — or risk handing Democrats permanent political power for decades.  Then we get into the big one: race. Tatum challenges the narrative on systemic racism, explains why statistics tell a different story, and warns that media and politics are intentionally racializing everything to divide Americans.  His message: reject the manipulation, reject the fear, and start coming together — because unity is the one thing the extremists on both sides can’t control.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Black people used to be Republican.

0:03.0

The first black senators and all of them were Republican.

0:06.0

That's right.

0:07.0

And now all of a sudden we got tricked into the welfare state and all of those things.

0:10.0

And now we are beholding to one party that have never done anything for us.

0:16.0

We had the first black president.

0:18.0

What did he do to address crime in Chicago?

0:20.0

What did he do to address what in Chicago? What did he do to

0:22.2

address what they were called the incarceration complex or whatever they call the prison pipeline?

0:27.1

What did he do to address any of that? Nothing. What did he do to address single parent homes? Nothing.

0:32.4

But he did more for the LGBTQ community than he did for the black community.

0:40.5

Keeping it real with Jillian Michaels.

0:43.2

You are quite the guy.

0:44.7

For anyone who does not know you, you have a degree in sociology.

0:49.9

You are an all-American football player who was almost drafted into the NFL.

0:54.7

You then joined the police force for six years.

0:57.8

You were a SWAT operator.

0:59.6

You were a field instructor.

1:02.0

Turned into media a mogul.

1:06.6

You have millions of followers on YouTube.

1:09.8

I see you everywhere talking to everyone from Scott Jennings to Pierce Morgan.

1:16.6

You have become a force.

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