A quick disclaimer, this episode does discuss suicide.

If you are in crisis, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK.

Or contact the crisis text line by texting TALK-TALK-2741-741.

Suicide contagion has been shown in research, so I recommend caution

before listening to this episode.

In 2018, 21-year-old Brandon Casserta took his own life

and how he did it was a message to the Navy.

Following his death, Brandon's parents have made it their mission to stop hazing,

abuse and the military, making it easier to hold those in charge accountable.

And this raises a question that has been asked a number of times in the true crime community.

Can someone be held criminally responsible if their actions led to someone's suicide?

I'm Charlie and welcome to Crime Lines.

If this is your first time listening, welcome to the show.

If you've listened before, welcome back.

I'm going to take a quick minute to let you know that this week's Get Vocal Live stream on Thursday

night will be all about the JJValow and Tiley Ryan case. There have been a lot of updates.

There is a new date line episode coming out on the case this week.

And it was requested by Kristi and Katie that we have some more discussion on the live streams.

But this time, I'm going to just be the moderator.

The way Get Vocal works is that there are four spots to be on screen,

and people can hop on and off by clicking the grab this spot button.

So that's basically what we're going to do.

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