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This is a CBC podcast. Hi everyone, Hillary here. This season of other people's problems is about therapy using psychedelics and other psychoactive drugs.

I'm a registered psychologist in my home province of British Columbia and everything we've included is legal and I am licensed to do.

Okay.

How's the medicine feeling in your body? So I think it's kicking out a little bit. I think so. Yeah, I can feel it. Yeah, nice. Okay. I'm Dr. Hilary McBride.

This is a really special season of other people's problems.

These are real-life therapy sessions using psychedelics and psychoactive drugs.

I don't think anyone has ever gotten to hear what these sorts of sessions actually sound like.

So this is really important and new. And for this one,

you'll hear me and my patient were calling Brandy. Okay, my name is Brandy, and I've been working with

Hillary in therapy for over seven years.

This was probably my fourth or fifth time using cannabis in a session.

For sure, the cannabis is helpful as a medicine,

but the other medicine of this work is the connection that I have with my body and the connection to Hillary in our relationship.

And those are really more powerful in this work.

And the cannabis, I feel, just allows me to access those other connections and those other medicines much more easily than I could without using the cannabis.

She had profound social anxiety and had a history of religious abuse and trauma from her childhood.

She'd grown up in a cult,

and her father was actually one of the main leaders in that cult.

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