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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Branden Jacobs-Jenkins on 'Kindred'

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2022

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Larry begins the pod by resharing a lovely discussion he had with his daughter Lauren from an episode in 2020 where they dissect the lyrical intricacies of "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" and examine how the song has evolved over time. He's then joined by award-winning playwright Branden Jacobs-Jenkins to discuss his new television show 'Kindred' streaming at FX on Hulu. They begin their conversation by talking about how the show came together, why Branden chose to adapt 'Kindred' from author Octavia Butler's impressive catalog, and the similarities between his show and the '70s TV mini-series 'Roots' (17:48). Next, Branden touches on the challenges of interpreting the chronological, thematic, and sci-fi elements of Butler's novel to the screen (28:11). After the break they explore the psychological layers of some of the show's main characters and shine a light on actor Mallori Johnson's portrayal of the protagonist Dana (49:08). They end the pod by debating the role of 'Kindred' in the current cultural climate and speculate on the future of the show (56:33). Host: Larry Wilmore Guests: Lauren Wilmore and Branden Jacobs-Jenkins Associate Producer: Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

An Instagram post gets an unexpected boost. A TikTok catches in the algorithm.

0:05.0

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0:14.8

start-up is made. It's a different kind of fame. That's not always as glamorous as it looks.

0:20.0

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0:24.0

You can listen to this blue up on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:31.0

I've entered the Rick and Morty multiverse so many times at all for that I don't know whether I'm Rick Morty.

0:38.0

Oh my soul. Am I Rick? Am I Morty? Am I me? Am I Rick? Am I Morty? Am I me?

0:45.0

I don't know. Watch now on all four. The UK's biggest free streaming service.

0:51.0

Watch and rewatch. Watch and rewatch. Watch and rewatch.

0:54.0

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1:04.0

Hey everybody. Welcome back. This is Larry. What more are you listening to Black on the air?

1:09.0

I want to wish everybody. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Happy Hanukkah. Anything you're celebrating.

1:15.0

Happy New Year and Merry New Year to you. Always. We have a very cool show today.

1:23.0

I'm interviewing Brandon Jacobs Jenkins. He's an award winning playwright.

1:29.0

Who is the shower and executive producer for a show called Kendrick on FX UnHoolham.

1:36.0

It is based on the Octavia Butler novel of the same name Kendrick Kimmel.

1:45.0

It's a science fiction fantasy historical. I can't get the genre.

1:50.0

For those of you that are fans of Octavia Butler, this is a must see this show.

1:55.0

For those of you who aren't, you'll get introduced. We have a great conversation about that show right now.

2:02.0

I hope you enjoy it. I thought I would cheer everybody up this holiday season.

2:09.0

We can have a little blast from the bass. A couple of years ago, I interviewed my daughter Lauren.

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