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Red Lines

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Red Lines

BBC

Government

4.478 Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2021

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

How has the relationship between Stormont & Dublin impacted on the battle with covid19?

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0:00.0

There's been a lot of discussion in recent days about the practicality of adopting a one island or indeed a two island approach to dealing with COVID-19.

0:08.2

Could it work? If it could, how precisely would it work?

0:11.6

And to what extent are different policy perspectives in Belfast, Dublin and London preventing potentially better ways of tackling the virus from happening by allowing party politics

0:22.7

to get in the way. David, is that what's happening here? Yes, sadly it is. We really seem to be

0:31.6

experiencing basically two different narratives here. Obviously, you've got Sinn Féin battling in the

0:36.5

South, and then obviously you've got the old issue about unionism with a protocol trying to maintain the integrity of the

0:42.2

United Kingdom. So those are the issues that are really floating around.

0:46.0

I think the coronavirus pandemic has kind of shown how relations between the North and South

0:53.5

have been pretty shallow for the last few years.

0:56.0

There's no great goodness between the two. And I think now when lives are sick, we're actually saying how dangerous that can be.

1:04.0

Gavin. I don't mean to throw in the tale quite so quickly, Mark, but it seems like the sort of thing that we wouldn't have been able to solve inside the last 800 years as to whether people from one island should be considered to be

1:13.9

natives of another. And then if you're throwing the question of which island a virus is native to as well,

1:18.4

I think you begin to get yourself caught and open the nettles pretty quickly. Well, that's the issue we're

1:23.2

discussing on this edition of Red Lines. whether or not our politicians should or indeed could set aside some of their, no doubt, deeply held convictions to deliver better outcomes for the people they govern.

1:34.8

And joining me to consider where we are in terms of North-South and East-West relations are the deputy editor of the Slugger-Rotul website, David McCann,

1:43.1

IFA Moore, political correspondent for the Irish Examiner,

1:46.2

and Gavin Riley, political correspondent at Virgin Media News.

1:50.0

Welcome to all of you, Gavin.

1:51.5

The first thing to say is that the issue of sharing information

1:54.9

and the coordination of restrictions in both jurisdictions on this island

1:58.8

has been an issue for 10 months at this stage.

2:02.9

Absolutely. It's been a very long-running saga and it almost depends, the greatest state of

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