Brainwaves: What happens between life and death?
On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti
WBUR
4.3 • 3.9K Ratings
🗓️ 12 February 2026
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
A tunnel. A bright light. Reuniting with deceased loved ones. Many people who have near-death experiences have remarkably similar stories. Why?
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| 0:26.5 | This is On Point. |
| 0:27.9 | I'm Megna Chakra-R-Bardi, and it's episode four of our special series Brainwaves. |
| 0:32.7 | In 1996, Joan Pavlinski was riding her bike along a path in East Ham on Cape Cod, Massachusetts. |
| 0:40.6 | And then suddenly, she was somewhere else. |
| 0:45.4 | I woke up floating above the trees. |
| 0:49.9 | It was blue, you know, blue, bluebird sky. |
| 0:54.2 | No wind. It was just gorgeous. |
| 0:56.6 | Very peaceful. Very, very peaceful. |
| 1:01.0 | Joan says right next to her was her dad. |
| 1:06.5 | He is sitting in the tree in a lotus position, and I'm up there with him. |
| 1:12.2 | And he had on a turquoise blue Nehru jacket that my mom had sewed for all seven of us in the 60s. |
| 1:20.7 | I just thought it was odd. Even at that point, I knew he was dead. I'd been dead for 10 years. |
| 1:26.6 | I didn't say, like, what are you doing here? But it was more like, what am I doing here was dead. He'd been dead for 10 years. I didn't say, like, what are you doing here? |
| 1:28.4 | But it was more like, what am I doing here? |
| 1:31.9 | I kept saying, this is so beautiful. |
| 1:33.7 | I had this incredible feeling of bliss. |
| 1:36.0 | I never had a feeling like this before. |
| 1:38.6 | And he kept saying that I had to go back, |
| 1:41.3 | but I was arguing saying, no, it's so beautiful here. I really want to stay. |
| 1:49.0 | I looked down and I saw from the tree a bicycle |
| 1:54.0 | and a woman who was sort of tangled up in the bicycle. |
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