Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy. It is Monday, May 9th and I'm your host

Kara Santa Maria. You guys have been so amazing in supporting the show week after week and

sticking with me and this week I want to give a specific shout out to the top

supporters of TalkNurdy. You can do so as well if you visit Patreon.com slash

TalkNurdy and pledge your support. Remember once again TalkNurdy is 100

percent free to download and it's because of support from listeners like you that we can continue to make the show week after week.

So this week I want to thank Phil T-Bare, Timothy Glover, Charles Payet, Jafe,

the Honorable Husband, Gabriel Felipe Harymio Gonzalez,

Ken Fyfer, Brian Holden, and last but absolutely not least Jeffrey Sewell. Thank you guys so very much.

As I'm also really excited because this week I chat with a friend and brilliant creator named Vanessa Hill. You may know her as the

host and brains behind Braincraft on YouTube, a PBS digital studio series.

So without any further ado, let's dive right in.

Here she is, Vanessa Hill.

Vanessa, thank you so much for taking the time to have a delicious brunch with me and then joining me in my ever-evolving podcast studio. My pleasure.

I'm so excited. So, and I just set up the second brand new

mic. I am on the first, they're the exact same. So new mics. Yeah.

Thanks to you guys, the listeners. I was able to upgrade. It might still be a little

echoy. I'm trying to work on that. We put up curtains. That's nice. It's very plush. It's very plush.

There's still a lot of blank white

Reverbery walls. So a lot of corners, which apparently is not good for audio.

So eventually we'll get there, but it's you know piece by piece piece there is sound dampening it's just in a

pile it's in a pile yeah it could help who knows it's just not quite hung

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