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The Takeaway

Bozoma Saint John, Urgently Living after Grief

The Takeaway

WNYC and PRX

Politics, Wnyc, Daily News, Radio, Takeaway, National, News, News Commentary

4.6716 Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2023

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Noted Businesswoman and marketing maven, Bozoma Saint John, joins us to talk about her new book “The Urgent Life: My Story of Love, Loss and Survival,” which chronicles the difficult moments she’s survived and her choice to live life urgently.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Latif from Radio Lab.

0:02.0

Our goal with each episode is to make you think,

0:06.1

how did I live this long and not know that?

0:09.6

Radio Lab, adventures on the edge of what we think we know.

0:13.0

Listen, wherever you get podcasts.

0:18.8

You're back with the takeaway.

0:20.3

I'm Melissa Harris-Perry.

0:22.2

Let's talk about grief.

0:24.9

I would have done anything for a few hours where I didn't have to think or even dream.

0:30.0

But my thoughts kept returning to the terrible truth I'd learned in the hospital that day

0:35.3

and all the unthinkable moments and tasks that were still ahead.

0:41.6

For some, grief tightens the chest, clenches the jaw, churns the stomach.

0:47.6

It can sit unmoving on our shoulders, a quilt stitched from trauma, or roll across us in waves that crash against our consciousness

0:56.7

before receding to a hidden place.

1:01.6

Finally, I got up and wandered over to the bookcase in my living room.

1:06.0

There sat works of literature I discovered at Westland,

1:09.1

classics that dazzled me with their melodies and prose.

1:13.1

Love poems by Nikki Giovanni.

1:15.6

I know why the Caged Bird sings by Maya Angelou.

1:19.6

The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin.

1:22.6

They were required reading for my college courses,

1:25.6

but I continued to reread them on my own.

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