Bozoma Saint John On How To Build Unshakable Confidence, Lead with Power & Advocate For Your Worth
The Bossticks
Dear Media
4.4 • 15K Ratings
🗓️ 16 March 2026
⏱️ 66 minutes
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#952: Join us as we sit down with Bozoma Saint John – businesswoman, entrepreneur, author, marketing powerhouse and executive leader known for blending emotional intelligence, cultural fluency, and bold authenticity. Throughout her career, she's held executive roles across music, tech, fashion, and entertainment, often becoming the first or only woman of color in the room while redefining what modern leadership looks like. In this episode, Bozoma shares powerful insights on confidence, leadership, workplace negotiations, and the importance of showing up authentically. She opens up about climbing the corporate ladder, owning the boardroom, and identifying the personal traits that make you valuable in any environment. Bozoma also gets candid about navigating grief and infertility, and offers practical advice on advocating for yourself, negotiating your salary, and stepping fully into your power.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostick. Together, they are the Bostics. |
| 0:10.7 | What a great guest to sort of kick off our show with, okay? Welcome Baws St. John to the Bostics. |
| 0:19.2 | Damn, this woman has got it going on. Let me tell you, I was so lit up in this |
| 0:23.8 | interview. I was harassing her to come back for part two at the end. Get out your notebook. You will want to |
| 0:32.3 | take notes in this one. Boss St. John is a businesswoman. She's an entrepreneur. She's an author. She also is on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. However, she knows her way around the boardroom. She will blow you away about how to advocate for your worth and teach you how to build unshakable confidence. This episode inspired me beyond. |
| 0:56.5 | Baws, welcome to the Bostics. |
| 0:58.7 | One of the most depressing moments of the pandemic was for me. So we were starting the companies |
| 1:03.3 | around the way where we were going. And we had a lot of new team members, you know, like when |
| 1:06.7 | we were working these corporate environments. Yeah. And we wanted to build a culture. And so we would do the |
| 1:11.5 | company happy hours where we would all drink on Zooten's too much. Too much. I know. I know. I did that too, by the way. Isn't that depressing? It was awful. What I realized is like even though you were on a screen talk, I mean, you were essentially drinking alone at your desk. Taylor, are we recording? |
| 1:26.5 | Yeah, we're going to hop right into it. |
| 1:28.6 | I have a lot to cover. |
| 1:30.3 | No, we can leave it in. |
| 1:31.2 | Go ahead. Alone at your desk. Alone. Taylor, are we recording? Yeah, we're going to hop right into it. |
| 1:28.3 | No, I have a lot to cover. |
| 1:30.3 | No, we can leave it in. |
| 1:31.2 | Go ahead and leave it in. |
| 1:32.2 | But I can't, I remember, like, people would be like, oh, here's my rum and Coke and then |
| 1:35.0 | one and me to crow and I'm like, toasting to each other. |
| 1:38.0 | And I remember I would just hang up the call and make, man, this is depressing. It was awful. I was the CMO of Netflix at that time and I would have my global town halls and I couldn't |
| 1:47.6 | see anybody. |
| 1:49.0 | It was like I was just staring at the little green dot on my laptop and you know, like I'm |
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