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Angie Martinez IRL

Bozoma Saint John on Faith, Hustle Culture Lies & Trusting Your Inner Voice

Angie Martinez IRL

iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Music, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Businesswoman, author, and reality TV star, Bozoma Saint John joins Angie Martinez to discuss making it as a woman entrepreneur, why she stands up for fellow CEO and businesswoman Emma Grede, how she has adapted to the "hustle culture" she was brought up in, being the parent of a teenage daughter, and how she cancels out the hate she receives on social media from being a star on "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills".

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.0

You're doing this publicly now. Yeah. All eyes. Opinions. Oh, everybody has an opinion. How do you manage to think? You hate that? I hate it so much. That's so honest. Most people would be like, I don't care, but I don't listen to people's opinion. Oh, I care. You read the comments. You read it. I'm responding.

0:23.3

You know that cat? I don't listen to people's opinion. Oh, I care. You read the comments, you read it. Oh, I'm responding.

0:23.6

You know that cat?

0:25.1

That's like, that's me.

0:33.1

Thanks for watching, guys.

0:34.1

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0:36.9

Both of my St. John is a Hall of Fame inducted marketing executive, author, entrepreneur, general just badass. In 2023, she stepped out of the corporate box and she published her memoir, which we were just talking about. And we'll share in a second. It was called The Urgent Life. It is called The Urgent Life. She's now a full-time cast member of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. That was not on any of our bingo cards. Nobody's bingo card. And she stars in On Brand with Jimmy Fallon, which is a marketing competition series on NBC. And she has many, many, many other things that we're going to talk about all the things today. But Bozeman and St. John is our guest today in real life. And we met recently for the first time. Oh, my God. On a women's panel. Yes. I was so excited. I was so excited. Because, you know what? I'm not from New York, but I feel like a New Yorker. I lived in New York

1:28.1

for 15 years. By the way, the longest I've ever lived in any city in my entire life.

1:33.7

That's why you moved around a lot. Yeah, moved around a lot. And I loved hearing you.

1:39.4

Oh. Every day. Thank you. Like every day. Yeah, yeah. You start to get like a one-way relationship.

1:44.2

I know you.

1:45.1

You know what I mean?

1:45.7

And so, like, when we met, it felt very familiar because I feel like I know you.

1:50.8

You know what I'm saying?

1:51.7

Yeah.

1:51.9

But also, there's enough of your public, you have a footprint in the world that I knew you,

1:56.9

I knew you somewhat.

1:58.1

Yes.

1:58.5

Well, thank you. So we already came with some type of, yeah.

2:01.8

But I was already in love. And then I'm like, oh, my God, to talk to Angie. Because, like, you're, I mean, you do do great storytelling. Thank you. And you have great conversation. And so even when we met at the panel, I was like, oh, man, we could sit up here and talk forever. That's going to be. How are we going to continue this conversation?

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