Boys With a Bit Less Pride
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2023
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Yesterday was verdict day for the Proud Boys. Mid-morning, the jury notified Judge Tim Kelly that it had reached a partial verdict, and that partial verdict was “guilty of seditious conspiracy” for four of the five defendants.
It was a big day for the Justice Department. To go over everything that happened, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down for a live recording of the podcast with Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff, who live-tweeted 61 days of the Proud Boys trial.
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| 0:29.0 | He was not the top wrong of the leadership of these chat groups |
| 0:39.0 | that were focused on January 6th, and there wasn't as much about him or by him in the telegram chats, |
| 0:47.0 | but he took the stand and then it turned out the government had found a video of him |
| 0:54.0 | that looks for all the world like he's pepper spraying police officers. |
| 1:00.0 | He had said over and over and over that he never assaulted anybody. |
| 1:06.0 | After they showed him some of this footage, they said, |
| 1:09.0 | now after seeing this and having thought about it overnight, |
| 1:14.0 | did you assault, did you pepper spray police officers? |
| 1:18.0 | He said, I don't recall. |
| 1:20.0 | His testimony was pretty bad. I think it heard him. |
| 1:24.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the LawFair podcast May 5th, 2023. |
| 1:32.0 | It is Proud Boys' verdict day, mid-morning. |
| 1:37.0 | The jury notified Judge Tim Kelly that it had reached a partial verdict, |
| 1:42.0 | and that partial verdict was guilty of seditious conspiracy for four of the five defendants. |
| 1:49.0 | A whole lot of stuff went down today, a big day for the Justice Department. |
| 1:56.0 | There are really only two people who have end-to-end visibility on this trial |
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