Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to introduce myself.

My name's Stevie Middleton and I'm a BBC Commissioner for a load of sport podcasts.

I'm lucky to do that at the BBC because I get to work with leading journalists, experienced

pundits and the biggest sports stars.

Together we bring you untold stories and fascinating insights straight from the player's mouths.

But the best thing about doing this at the BBC

is a unique access to the sporting world.

What that means is that we can bring you podcasts

that create a real connection to dedicated sports fans

across the UK.

So if you like this podcast,

head over to BBC Sounds

where you'll find plenty more.

This is Five Live Boxing.

You know, you can gather the greatest boxers in the world.

You can build venues in the most exotic, ridiculous places in the world.

You can make belts out of solid gold.

You can pay them hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.

Sometimes fights just don't work.

And that happened this week.

I'm Steve Bunce and this is Five Live Boxing.

Now before I introduce my guest and the location, let me try something from you.

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