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Spotify to find out more. You're listening to Away with Words, the show about language and how

we use it. I'm Grant Barrett. And I'm Martha Barnett. Jan Betel-Ellis of Shalane, Washington teaches

English as a second language. And she also leads workshops for volunteer teachers of English as a

second language. And she was trying to come up with some unusual English words for common items

because she thought it would be a good exercise for the volunteer teachers to be confronted with

those English words that maybe don't make sense, but sort of do in a sense. So she went to our

Facebook group and asked for examples. And our listeners there were so helpful. They gave her a

whole lot of words in that category. For example, Winkle Hawk. Do you know this word Winkle Hawk?

Oh, no. If you have a Winkle Hawk in your pants, it's an L-shaped rip. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it doesn't ring a bell. I think I think we may have talked about that a long time ago. It's an

old Dutch term that means a Carpenter's L-shaped tool. So if you have an L-shaped rip in your pants,

that's a Winkle Hawk. And another one was Diastema, which I feel like I knew at one point, but forgot.

Diastema is a word for the gap between your teeth. So think David Letterman.

Sure. It comes from a Latin word that means interval. But it was just so cool the way all

these people chimed in with words for things that you know of, but don't quite have the name for.

Yeah. And it was also interesting to follow the discussion on Facebook because other ESL teachers

chimed in and talked about how they would teach new teachers by making them learn a conversation

in Japanese, just a short conversation, so that they could have the experience of experiencing what

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