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Thank you. dot com backslash cyberwire. Hello everyone and welcome to the CyberWire's Research Saturday.

I'm Dave Bittner and this is our weekly conversation with researchers and analysts tracking down the threats and vulnerabilities,

solving some of the hard problems and protecting ourselves in a rapidly evolving cyberspace.

Thanks for joining us.

And as we kind of evaluated it more and more, it's started to become clear that it looks

like the activity that is the KD dot net side likely may be a different actor or an actor

working in direct support of Volt Typhoon, but it's a different set, likely a different set of hands-on keyboard operators

than those who are actually living off the land against high-value targets.

That's Silas Cutler, principal security researcher at Census.

The research we're discussing today is titled,

Will the Real Volt Typhoon Please Stand Up?

Well, let's back up just a little bit, and for folks who aren't following it too closely,

how do you describe Volt Typhoon themselves?

Yeah, so Volt Typhoon generally believed to be a threat actor that operates from the People's

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