Before this BBC podcast kicks off, I'd like to tell you about some others you might enjoy.

My name's Will Wilkin and I Commission Music Podcast for the BBC.

It's a really cool job, but every day we get to tell the incredible stories behind songs,

moments and movements, stories of struggle and success, rises and falls, the funny, the ridiculous.

And the BBC's position, at the heart of British music

means we can tell those stories like no one else.

We were, are and always will be right there at the centre of the narrative.

So whether you want an insightful take on music right now

or a nostalgic deep dive into some of the most famous and infamous moments in music,

check out the music podcasts on BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.

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CJ.

Do you see? Back at my old stomping ground. I think I spent as much time as in this hotel.

As anyone in the world? As anyone in the world. I think Ben Young's and Dan Cole will rival me.

So we're in a lovely spot outside at the England team base. You can hear the trickle of the

fountains. It is lovely this time of year. It's in the depths of winter still some spot,

but better with the sun shining for sure.

In the summer, bagshot in Surrey. I mean, this place gives me the shivers every time I drive down it,

but also I've had some amazing times. Good times and bad times. And we're going to speak to the big man.

So we've got Steve Borthwick coming on the pod, a special pod with the England coach as he prepares for that tour of Argentina and the USA.

But what are we can to look forward to? We've got the Lions on Australian soil, their first game against the Western Force.

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