No, baby but the grave, no one baby but the grave.

Oh, strong enough to say something from what they gave.

Oh, no, baby but the grave. No one may. Phil, yes. What we do almost every time we're together? What do we discuss?

Where we're going to eat? And Springsteen? Springsteen has been a runner in our show and our friendship

exactly uh and i'm the one from new jersey and yet i think you bring them up more often

but we uh we both have tons of springsteen stories but we figured and they've come up in

our paul riser episode they came up uh in, I'm trying to think, oh, Alan Hughes recently told the great story.

Yes.

Interviewing him for the defiant ones.

But besides us talking about Bruce, I thought, how do we make an episode, a totally boss episode

where we can talk about Springsteen and share some stories.

And then I realized I love a podcast called None But the Brave,

a true to form named after a outtake, a, you know,

a song that didn't make,

one of the many brilliant songs that we'll talk about that didn't make a studio record originally.

So this is deep dive stuff.

This is deep, deep.

Oh, no.

And my point is, it brings me back to the beginning of when I discovered the internet.

Because until the internet, I thought I was the biggest fan of everybody I loved.

And then you realized, no, no, I'm this the sane person who loves Springsteen.

And then you enter the world of people who-

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