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Hi, Matt Kilti.

Hi, Lulu Miller.

Let me tell you what I've been thinking about.

Hey, I'm Lulu Miller.

This is Radio Lab.

And a little while ago, a reporter, Matthew Kilti, came to me with the story of an idea.

Yeah, the idea that you were born into a sexual orientation, this is like the born this way,

idea?

Yeah, the born this way, idea.

Okay.

Which I always believed to be true for much of my life, but in the past few years, that idea

felt essentially like under assault and in these like pretty public ways and ways that

were happening on both the right and the left.

And so it's like on one hand, you have something like the bill in Florida, seven, the parents

rights and education bill, the don't say gay bill, the bill prohibits classroom instruction

where you can't teach kids third grade and below anything about sexual orientation or

gender identity because the logic there is that by talking about sexuality and gender or

reading a book about it or whatever.

We will make sure that parents can send their kids to school.

That those things will like change a kid's identity to get an education, not an indoctrination.

Yeah.

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