Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics at Talbot School

Theology here at Biola University.

And I'm your co-host Sean McDowell, Professor of Apologics at Talbot School Theology,

Biola University.

We're here with our guest today, Rachel Gilson, who has a special role in the leadership team of theological development

and culture with the Parach Church Ministry crew.

She's written a terrific new book entitled, Born Again This Way,titled this particular resting, I think coming out, coming to faith, and what comes next.

Rachel, thanks so much for joining us and to talk a little bit about your book were anxious to hear you

spell out a number of things that you talk about in the book.

Well I'm delighted to be here. Thanks for inviting me. So tell us just briefly here the book is the story of how you came to faith and the

conflict that ensued with your sexuality.

So I just briefly summarized for our listeners the story of how you came to faith and the

conflict that that created. Yeah, so you know I grew up like you know many people

not around churches but actually not myself in church.

So by the time I was a high school student I had

discovered two things about myself.

One, I was really interested in the world of ideas.

And two, the way that my female peers

felt about other guys was actually

how I felt about other young women.

And so with those two discoveries in the mix,

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