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Laura, it's revealed to Newtacastas the way that this podcast is sometimes put together

in little pieces. We've already recorded the main bit, haven't we? And it is a cracking

chat with Will Walden, who worked for years and years with Boris Johnson, and officers

all sorts of insights into, well, the whole business of working with him, which will

play you in a minute.

People in tears, people being whacked with crutches, people getting told off in that

Israeli airport early in the morning.

And that was Boris Johnson being told off cigarettes near the canal.

It's here with me. It's a filter.

It is a filter. Such a filter that Adam on holiday at the moment, but on our WhatsApp group.

And so here's our conversations whilst we are recording.

It has been struck by Horde Envy, and he's messaging us from wherever he is, demanding

to know why was this not saved until I came back or something, some such thing.

Oh, that's so tragic. So we better get on with it, because he's actually going to end up

trying to dial into this studio, but just before we do, I want to say a special hello to

Jonathan Brindle and Joe Karoma, because we had Naga in the chair yesterday, lovely having

her on.

Obviously, because she works on breakfast telly, she gets up in the middle of the night,

and what she does when she gets up very, very early in the morning is listen to this

podcast.

So I was wondering, who else does? Well, Jonathan Brindle told us he's listening to his wife

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