Hello and welcome to rock and roll politics, the podcast with steve richards and i hope you're all enjoying

the lockdown exit having the barbecues getting the beer out few burgers we went down to the

south coast a really unglamorous part of the south coast just to do some swimming in the sea

in a place called frinton for those of you who don't

know Frinton, it's not Brighton. It's not, you know, the glamour of Brighton. And it was packed.

We were there at the weekend. And yeah, that was exactly it. Burger's my, burger, yeah, beer.

I'll get, I'm another house. Everywhere you went, you could hear

the sounds of the barbecues and the beer and it was as far removed from the early images of

lockdown which conveyed emptiness and an eerie silence as it was possible to be. And remember,

we're still meant to be in a kind of

lockdown situation. But we're not going to be in my way. That was the kind of image of this phase

of lockdown. And I'll reflect on that in a moment and quite a few other things as well. Brexit,

we're going to look at Brexit.

It's back.

Never went away.

And it's a huge, huge story for reasons I'll explore.

Talk briefly about the Emily Maitlis saga.

Of course, it's a footnote in the great scheme of things.

But I think it does have some lessons about the BBC and its future and its purpose, which I'll talk about. But before all of that, just a reminder if it's okay with all of

you, that the next live virtual show rock and roll politics is on June the 17th, and the tickets

are available on the King's Place website. Hope you can all join me.

A great thing about these live virtual shows as distinct from the actual physical shows is that

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