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Thinking Allowed

Borders

Thinking Allowed

BBC

Society & Culture, Science

4.4997 Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Borders: Laurie Taylor explores the control of national borders. He talks to Nira Yuval Davis, Director of the research centre on Migration, Refugees and Belonging at the University of East London and co-author of a new book which asks why borders have moved from the margins into the centre of political life and turned many ordinary citizens into untrained border guards. They’re joined by Jeremy Slack, Assistant Professor of Geography at the University of Texas, who charts the way in which Mexican deportees from the United States become the targets of extreme drug related violence upon their return to Mexico.

Producer: Jayne Egerton

Transcript

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0:00.0

Take some time for yourself with soothing classical music from the mindful mix, the Science of

0:07.0

Happiness Podcast.

0:08.0

For the last 20 years I've dedicated my career to exploring the science of living a happier more meaningful life and I want

0:14.4

to share that science with you.

0:16.1

And just one thing, deep calm with Michael Mosley.

0:19.4

I want to help you tap in to your hidden relaxation response system and open the door to that

0:25.4

calmer place within. Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:30.3

BBC Sounds, Music Radio Podcasts.

0:35.0

I'm Laurie Taylor and this is a podcast for BBC Radio Force thinking aloud.

0:42.0

What is life truly like on the border between Mexico and the

0:45.6

USA? Is that famous wall serving its intended purpose? How many other such barriers

0:51.3

to the free movement of people are currently being erected

0:54.7

around the world. Find out here. Hello I was 15 years old when I first went

1:01.2

abroad, went together with my school friend Dave, I took a coach from

1:04.5

Liverpool to Lid in Kent where an ancient aircraft hummed us across the channel to the 2K.

1:10.3

Now the air hostess on this coach coach she spent part of the long journey checking

1:14.9

passports and when she came to David myself she also asked for our visas.

1:19.2

Oh we went you know we weren't told about visas we protested nervously

1:23.0

ain't nobody else has been asked for visa said Dave why we being asked it's because

1:27.6

your scousers said our hostess patiently scousers are never allowed out of

1:32.4

Liverpool without a visa.

1:34.0

Well I remember that cruel little joke and the anxiety is aroused

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