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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Borderline vs Complex PTSD (Deep Dive) (2017 Rerun)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

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🗓️ 2 April 2026

⏱️ 3 minutes

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[Rerun] Dr. Kirk and Bob discuss the differences between borderline, complex PTSD, and PTSD. (Intro) July 19, 2017

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0:00.0

So, Bob, today I want to talk about the difference between complex post-traumatic stress disorder

0:12.5

and borderline personality disorder.

0:16.2

There's a lot of debate in the literature and among clinicians about whether or not they're even different

0:24.0

things or if they are in fact different. Complex PTSD and borderline personality disorder.

0:31.1

The reason why I want to talk with you about it, Bob, is for two reasons. One, is that you

0:37.2

specialize in the

0:38.2

treatment of people with borderline, and I'm guessing you've come across a lot of people

0:42.1

who also have complex PTSD. Is that true? I think we're getting right into the debate. Are they

0:47.8

one and the same? Well, you've, you've, the issue is, is you've treated a lot of people with

0:52.2

borderline. Yes. And the other reason is because patron Natasha wrote in and she said, what is the difference

1:00.2

between borderline personality disorder and complex PTSD?

1:04.0

I have several clients who have experienced attachment-related trauma and also experienced

1:09.3

traumatic events later in life. They tend to have

1:12.0

issues with trust. They are fearful of being betrayed, and they tend to interpret others as being

1:17.7

critical or rejecting. They have high levels of internalized self-directed anger. They are

1:23.5

extremely self-critical. They have black and white thinking styles about themselves and other

1:27.9

people. I am currently working with borderline personality sorter and complex PTSD clients in a similar

1:34.3

way. But I'm trying to work out whether it would be helpful to distinguish these diagnoses,

1:39.3

since they seem to be pretty similar. So that's what I want to talk about today with you, Bob, because you're

1:46.5

an expert in this field, and the listeners will benefit from your expertise. Welcome to the

1:53.7

Psychology in Seattle podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kirkonda. I'm a therapist and a professor. Who are you, Bob?

2:00.6

I'm Bob Gettle. I'm a therapist, a friend of yours from graduate school way back when, and I practice here in Seattle.

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