My name is Mark Vissente. I'm a director, producer, writer, and troublemaker. I'm most known as the director of the film What the Bleep Do We Know, and as one of the next-team whistleblowers featured in the HBO series, Aval. Let's just say, I know a thing or two about cults. I don't consider myself a cult expert, but I'm definitely an expert in being screwed over, waking up, and

knowing how to spot them.

And let me tell you, they're everywhere.

My mission is to help people see patterns of abuse across multiple contexts.

From personal to family, to group to societal, it's all the same pattern at every scale.

As you'll hear, I have a pretty salty approach to most things.

So there might be some blasphemy.

One or two sacred cows might get knocked over, and there'll likely be some foul language.

You never quite know what you're going to get, because it really does depend on what the

fuck is on my mind.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to WTF is on my mind.

I'm in Cape Town today, a sea point to be exact,

and I'm staring out the window at a view I just showed Mr. Richard Grannon

of lion's head, which I used to climb in my 20s,

and people actually paraglide off that thing because they're

insane. Yeah. It's always impressive. It's always impressive. So today what we're going to chat about

Mr. Grannon and I is borderline personality disorder. Borderline personality disorder. I can't say it properly.

Mostly it's me trying to ask questions because I really want to understand it because I saw some things, you know,

over the last few years and people and I was like, that doesn't seem like just narcissism

or it's a brand of narcissism, it's a variation of narcissism.

And I think I'm starting to understand like, oh, I'm looking at a different thing.

But because I'm a moron when it comes to these things,

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