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The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill

Borderlands | 2. The Outlaw

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill

Sony Music

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.23.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

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0:00.0

In the big bend, a lot of smugglers didn't seem too concerned about the feds watching them.

0:10.9

People did what they wanted to do, and it was kind of like we're here if you could catch

0:15.7

us, it was that kind of deal.

0:20.7

Dan Dobbs is a retired U.S. customs agent.

0:24.4

As I started to look into the story of Robert Chambers and Sheriff Rick Thompson, it wasn't

0:29.0

long before he came up on my radar.

0:31.9

He had arrived in the big bed region in April 1987, a huge moment in the war on drugs.

0:38.3

Violence was escalating on both sides of the border.

0:41.6

Billions of dollars in cash was flowing into U.S. law enforcement, and the border

0:45.8

lands could feel like a combat zone.

0:50.0

One of the reasons I wanted to talk to Dobbs is because he'd seen it all.

0:54.5

Yeah, I stopped some guys and stolen a car and wanted to put a hole in me.

1:00.4

He hit me in the upper arm.

1:02.9

I hit him twice in a chest, he didn't even die.

1:05.9

I mean, I wasn't near death or anything, it just hurt like a son of a bitch.

1:11.1

But mostly, Dan's job wasn't shootouts with felons.

1:14.9

He worked big drug investigations.

1:17.5

These larger cases could take a long time to crack.

1:21.8

And whether he liked it or not, often that meant working in partnership with other

1:25.6

law enforcement agencies, like the DEA.

1:29.8

I say whether he liked it or not because, in reporting this story, some people who knew

1:34.5

Dan back in the day have told me that he could be a bit of a loner in his work, a kind

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