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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Boots Riley: The Coup, Sorry to Bother You, and more

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

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Society & Culture

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2020

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

We revisit our conversation with the writer-director and rapper Boots Riley. He's a founding member of the legendary hip hop group The Coup. The band's sound is politically-charged with a laid-back funk and has that classic Bay area cadence. His rhymes tell a story of his own life and deal with elements of social justice, poverty, racism. He's more than an artist. He's a long-time activist who uses his talents as a story-teller to move the needle forward in the world. In 2018 he made his directorial debut with the film Sorry to Bother You. It's a dark comedy that takes on late-stage capitalism, among other issues, head-on. Bootsy returns to Bullseye to talk about Sorry to Bother You, trying to find his style early on as both an individual and as a band member and how the narrative style of his song "Fat Cats, Bigga Fish" inspired his film career. Plus, he'll talk to us about how the very personal song "Underdog" helped him deal with the grief of losing a long-lost friend.

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0:00.0

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR.

0:12.0

I'm Jesse Thorn, it's Bullseye.

0:21.7

So this week we are coming to you from my home office in Los Angeles about a week into

0:28.3

the Self-isolation. We figured now is as good a time as I need to look back at some of

0:32.8

our favorite Bullseye interviews. So a 2018 conversation with the great Boots Riley.

0:39.6

Boots is hands down one of the most interesting people making art today. Among other things

0:45.0

he's the front man of the coup, one of my favorite rap groups of all time. The coup make

0:50.4

straightforward music. The beats never had a lot of frills. Boots when he wraps does so

0:56.1

plainly. But the central element of the coup is its message. Boots told stories when he

1:02.7

wrapped, painted pictures from his real life. He talked about social justice and poverty

1:07.8

and racism. A lot of hip-hop is about prosperity, overcoming a system that's been rigged against

1:14.2

you for centuries, success stories, in other words. The coup with Boots as the front man

1:19.8

want to throw the system out entirely. About eight years ago Boots started working

1:36.6

on a movie, something he'd never really done before. He started telling friends about it

1:41.2

asking acquaintances in the industry for advice. Sometimes he'd just corner a movie producer

1:46.1

for 15 minutes. He wrote a screenplay and thanks to a combination of audacity, determination

1:51.7

and luck, he actually made the movie. It's called sorry to bother you. It's set in Oakland

1:58.2

in a kind of alternate reality. Lequith Stanfield is the star. He plays cashous green, a black

2:04.5

man who gets a gig doing telemarketing. And it's in that job that he finds the key to success.

2:10.6

He's going to do a dead-on impression of a white dude and magically people listen when

2:16.0

you call. From that point forth, it gets weirder, much weirder. If you've seen sorry to bother

2:22.7

you, you know what I mean. But if you haven't, I don't want to spoil anything for you. I'll

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