Hey, it's Anna. We'll get to today's episode in just a minute, but I want to quickly

remind you first that we want to hear from you right now about childcare. Do you take

care of kids for your job? What are the conversations you're having right now that you've never

had before with your employer or with parents? And what are the things you wish you could

say, but feel like you can't? And if you have kids, how is the childcare situation in

the pandemic affecting everything else in your life? We want to especially hear from people

who aren't women who have kids. We've only heard from women so far. Record a voice memo or

send us an email at deathsexmoneyatwnyc.org.

Now this episode is special. This summer, we're doing a series of live Zoom conversations

with the authors of new books that we love. Today, Amina Tussaud and Anne Friedman, authors

of the New York Times best-selling book, Big Friendship, How We Keep Each Other Close.

They've written a book that is both a memoir of their long friendship and a manifesto

about the importance of putting in the work to take care of our friendships and adulthood.

Amina Tussaud and Anne are also the hosts of the podcast, Call Your Girlfriend, which they

started back in 2014. As long-distance friends, they've been very close for more than a decade,

and have lived apart more than they've lived near each other. When they first met back

in 2009 and in Amina Tussaud were both living in DC in their 20s and starting to shape their

adult lives. A lot has changed since then, and that's introduced real strain and conflict

in their friendship. We talked about all of this on Zoom on the day their book came out,

and was at home in LA. Amina Tussaud was in New York.

Congratulations on your new book and welcome.

Thank you. Hi. Hi, I'm so glad you're both here. Thank you for having us.

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