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From W be easy Chicago, this is Nurdett.

I'm Greta Johnson and I am still on the floor of my bedroom closet which means

this is another edition of Nardets introverts guide to the good life. It is June and

we are officially in the throes of summer reading season, which honestly might just be my favorite time of the year.

Forget Christmas.

Our plan for today was to have a guest on to talk about all the great books that are

coming out this summer because there are a lot of great books coming out this

summer but with everything that's been happening around the country this week we

thought we should also talk about some reading ideas for those of you who are trying to figure out how we got here and what to do next.

So here to help me with both of those things is NPR Books editor Barry Harteman.

Barry, hey!

Hey, Greta!

I am so excited to have you on the show

for the first time ever somehow.

I don't know how this is, I already feel like I know you I'm going to stay forever.

Excellent. So Barry as I mentioned you and I had originally planned on like just

talking about like fun breezy summer. And I do still want to get to some of that, but

given the protests that have been taking place this week all over the country and last week, and just, I, you know know I feel like a lot of people are doing

a lot of soul searching around race and policing and their role in all of it and you

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