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This is Steve Allen's A Little Bit Extra, leading Britain's conversation.

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Morning everybody, welcome along to your free podcast for today, Wednesday, November the 16th.

Well, what's going on in the world? Well, you know what's going on in the world. There's a little bit of

action here, a little bit of action there, and even more action in Fern McCann's camp at the moment where it

turns out yes she did say those words she's freely admitted it but said that she did it under

duress to be honest with you I don't know whether or not I know I mean calling people names

I don't see as such a big deal but the trouble is if she sets herself up as, oh, I'm holier than thou and all the

rest of it, and then says something to somebody, she says, oh, she's incredibly brave. Pity you didn't

say that first time around. ITV, I'm suspecting, have no choice but to cancel her programs. How can you

have somebody on television who has been responsible for calling this other woman out who was attacked by

Fern McCann's ex-boyfriend who's now serving 20 years in prison. I don't really see,

you know, their hands must be tied. You can't be seen to be encouraging this sort of thing.

I couldn't care less whether she said, oh, she's really brave and I did it because I was

frightened. Unfortunately, that's not the issue. The issue is you used words like that

against somebody who's going to be scarred for a long, long time. And I think that's where you have to

pay for it. As I think Sam Fahir's or one of the Fahir sisters said, she's basically screwed her own

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