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Welcome to We Have Ways with me Al Talk with me, Al Murray and James Holland,

the Second World War podcast of choice for those people with taste and sophistication and an interest in the greatest story ever told. That's basically the way to tea this show up, isn't it, Jim? Yeah, you don't need to say anything else. Exactly. That is the perfect intro. I've nothing to add.

We cover everything.

We even cover naval matters these days.

I know, I know.

We've gone, Exactly. That is the perfect intro. I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, we cover, we've, we've

cover naval matters these days. I know, I know, we've gone, we've gone Navy, Navy crazy. And, um, today we're, we're having a, basically a war waffle chat, um, a kind of, uh, a catch-up. Yeah. Talking about some things that have grabbed our attention, what we're up to. We've got a timeline for February, February the 24th,

across the war. You've now embarked. Let's start, let's start there. You've just embarked,

Jim, haven't you, on your next round of research as you're preparing to write about the first

stage at the Atlantic War. Is that right? Or the second state? Just the first... Yeah, basically, all the stuff we've just covered in the podcast from September 1939 on the Atlantic War series, then the eight episodes we've done on the Hood and the Bismarck collectively, that's what I'm covering. The only bit we haven't covered, and maybe we should do a two-part special is the capture of U110 or U110.

Because I don't think we can have enough Navy and U110 of course is ULIS Lemp who sank the

Athenia on day one in U-30.

He's been promoted and he's got a bigger he's got a bigger U-boat by this point. And that's the one with the Enigma Machine captured.

And it's quite the epic story, I can tell you. Well, I was going to ask actually, tangentially to that. You know, naval intelligence is one of the main players. It's Bletchley's most important client for a long stretch of the war, isn't it? Well, there you go. This is the game changer, really. And the other thing is, one of the destroyers involved in that action is, was commanded by a chap called Captain Funge Smith.

Oh, come off here.

It's really funny.

What's really funny, I've got his account of the capture of U-110.

And in all his signatures, it's just Captain Smith.

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