Hello and welcome to another episode of the Maxwell Institute's Book of Mormon Studies podcast.

My name is Rosalind Welch. I'm the host of the podcast and I'm joined today by my friend and my colleague, Dr. Timothy Ferrant.

Tim is a postdoctoral fellow here at the Maxwell Institute after completing

his PhD in medieval theology at the University of Oxford Pembroke College. So welcome to the podcast,

Tim. Today we are going to be talking about some highlights of the scholarly literature that's been written on the book of Second Nephi.

And I'll start out by saying there is a big elephant in the room, or there's a big elephant not in the room, which is the question of Isaiah in Second Nephi.

That is a big question. And I've

decided that I'm going to record a whole dedicated episode talking about Isaiah in the Book

of Mormon that'll air later in the season. So we're not going to address any of the issues of

Isaiah intertextuality in Second Nephi today, which I'm kind of glad

about because as fascinating as Isaiah and intertextuality is there's so much more to think about

in the book of Second Nephi. It's one of the richest in the Book of Mormon. So we're going to

focus on some other aspects of the book today. And Tim, you are going to start us off by giving us a taste of one of our

other colleagues, Terrell Givens' brief theological introduction on the book of Second Nephi. So

give us a sense for what Terrell is doing in that little book. Oh, perfect. Thanks for the very

kind introduction, I must say. Oh, I also have my copy here with a book. I must admit, it's with relief that I receive the news that we're not going to do sort of an in-depth textual analysis of Isaiah in the book of Mormon, because I think, you know, there are people that are far more expert than I so in this.

But I think I really enjoyed Terrell Givens' brief theological introduction because it gives us a nice,

sort of clean, accessible way into the text and a way of making sense of the text as well.

And I think that perhaps one of his most interesting developments in reading Second Nephi,

or at least in my experience of reading Second Nephi,

is that he says that there are two phases in Nephi's record.

And he says that the first phase accompanies

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