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Book Club Meets: Women speaking their minds, with Dame Harriet Walter

Happy Place

Fearne Cotton

Society & Culture, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Relationships, Personal Journals

4.615.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Do you find yourself keeping quiet when you have plenty to say? Dame Harriet Walter – who has played 21 of Shakespeare’s female characters – has written She Speaks, which goes between the lines and imagines what Shakespeare’s women might really have wanted to say.

 

She Speaks was our Happy Place Book Club read for December. In this chat with Fearne, Harriet explains why she felt it was so important to finally let these female characters speak their minds. Harriet also expands on the characters in order to comment on modern day issues like the way ageing women are treated.

 

Fearne and Harriet chat about whether art mirrors the social hierarchy of its day, or perhaps offers an alternative worldview. Plus, Harriet reveals how female actors keep themselves in character when they’re waiting (often a long time) to speak on stage...

 

Thank you to Little Brown Audio for the use of She Speaks audiobook, narrated by Harriet Walter.

 

Listen to Book Club Meets: Liane Moriarty

 

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0:00.0

Ophelia fooled you.

0:02.3

Hey, welcome to the Happy Place Book Club with me, Fern Cotton.

0:06.2

To obey or not to obey had been my question.

0:09.0

Today, she speaks what Shakespeare's women might have said by Dame Harriet Walter.

0:14.9

A chance cheat death and leave my body to hibernate a while, then reappear a reinvented, unconnected person,

0:24.9

not sickly doer with thinking or with fear.

0:29.3

Observing Hamlet carefully, I aped him, like him, escaped by faking antic ways.

0:36.4

If he was mad northwest, I'd be his tailwind.

0:40.1

Distract them with distraction, seeming crazed.

0:44.8

From there it was a breeze to stage my drowning.

0:48.7

I sought the help of one who digs the graves.

0:52.6

Beside poor Yorick's corpse, there is an orphan, not buried yet.

0:56.8

I'll see how much she weighs.

0:59.3

Then later, as an unobserved observer, I watched them trail my understudies' beer.

1:06.2

It worked a treat.

1:07.9

So totally enshrouded, she fooled them, and they drenched her with their tears.

1:15.1

Did Hamlet or my brother howl the loudest? I own I had to eavesdrop on their griefs.

1:21.6

The sad truth is, whichever way you sound it, the person they were mourning wasn't me.

1:31.1

One last obedient act I did,

1:39.2

for Hamlet. He bade me to a nunnery, so I went. And oh, what marvellous people I have found here, encloistered in these deep, sequestered walls. No saintly nuns to speak of, but some sisters that

1:48.2

narrow tongues do fast, loose women call. The learned and the simple, young and ancient, the

1:56.6

harlots and the headstrong, wits and bores, the accidental mothers and their offspring,

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