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🗓️ 18 July 2025
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The case of the people person who fell out of love with people.
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Summary: On this episode of The Science of Happiness, we’re featuring an episode from the Proxy podcast, hosted by Yowei Shaw. The episode follows Zakiya Gibbons, who also appeared on our show recently to explore science-based ways of connecting with her intuition. In this Proxy episode, Zakiya shares a personal reflection on how the pandemic altered her social life and sense of identity, offering an honest look at how our personalities can shift in response to major life changes.
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0:33.7 | Hi, this is Shuka Kalantari. |
0:36.2 | Today on The Science of Happiness, we're sharing an episode from our friends at the podcast, Proxy, hosted by Yo-A. Shaw. If you caught our episode yesterday, you'll recognize today's guest, Zika Gibbons. Yesterday, Zika explored research-backed ways to tap into her intuition. In this episode of Proxy, she opens up about how the pandemic changed her social life and sense of self, |
0:59.4 | and what it means for our personalities to shift over time. |
1:03.5 | As somebody with social anxiety, I just didn't realize that you could develop it. |
1:09.3 | I didn't either. I didn't either, bitch. |
1:20.1 | Hey, everybody. Welcome to Proxy. I'm Yo-A. Shaw, your emotional investigative journalist. |
1:27.2 | Today, the case of the people person who's fallen out of love with people, that's after the break. I've got this thing I keep doing, I've got this thing I keep doing that, well, gives me kind of a hit. I think it's bad for me, |
2:06.7 | and I tell myself no more. I'm done. It's draining and it sucks up the little money I have. |
2:14.8 | But then every six months, one thing leads to another, and I forget about these complaints, |
2:21.2 | and I take a train north or south, and I show up at the next podcast event. |
2:30.2 | I catch up with friends who are all underemployed. |
2:34.1 | I rub elbows with strangers and tell them way too much about myself. |
2:38.0 | I revisit old trauma from jobs. |
2:41.0 | I get depressed about the future of podcasting. |
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