Hey everyone, it's Stacy. We have got something a little different, little special for you this weekend.

It is a bonus episode of the podcast Wisdom From The Top with the wonderful host Guy Roz.

The podcast features conversations about leadership, innovation and transformation.

In this particular episode, Guy talks with me about a side project that I have been working on for the last couple of years.

And I really hope you enjoy it. Here's Guy.

This episode was recorded in 2021.

From luminary built-in productions and NPR, it's Wisdom From The Top.

Stories of crisis, failure, turnaround and triumph from some of the greatest leaders in the world.

I'm Guy Roz, and on the show today, Makiavelli for Women.

For a conquering prince, he says things are really tough.

Everybody's questioning their power, their right to be there.

Which makes it an amazing proxy for women in the workplace.

Stacy Vanick Smith, on what the 16th Century philosopher can show women in the workplace today.

Stacy Vanick Smith has been reporting on business and finance for close to 20 years.

She's the host of the indicator on planet money.

And throughout her career, she's reported on everything from oil and Oklahoma to monetary policy in Pune, India.

And the more she examined the business world, the more she kept bumping into some unpleasant truths.

80% of CEOs are men.

Women make 80 cents for every dollar a man makes.

Women start 40% of the businesses in the US, but get 2% of venture capital.

And of course, these trends extend into the world of politics, law, entertainment.

Do you name it? So what to do?

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