Oh, Francis, Francis, Francis.

My dear friend.

You are, listen, you are my dear friend.

You are so dear to me that if I only knew you as a celebrity, a podcaster, I would still

think you were my friend, that's how relatable you are.

Really?

Yeah.

What do you think of me as a celebrity?

I would say you're a celebrity, yeah.

How do you define what a celebrity is?

No, I mean, I was just saying, you, when you think about me, you think, celebrity.

Yeah, I go.

I think my friend, Francis, whenever I'm around you, you're just like, you're thinking,

wow, you're just a celebrity.

Why do I, hang on, why do I look over to my left?

Why do I look over to my right?

You're just looking over, why do you look over to the right when you say, ah, well, I was

actually my zoom camera is actually mirrored.

So it was actually my, my, my left.

But, but so, I mean, what I'm just saying is, so, so what you're saying is that, that,

that, that you get a bit starstruck when I see you, my president.

I don't get, I don't get a starstruck when I see you, but when I, when I see you, when

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