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American Prestige

Bonus - US-China Relations Under Biden and Going Forward (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8705 Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Jake Werner, acting director of the East Asia Program at the Quincy Institute, is back on the program, this time to talk about the current state of US-China relations and where they might be heading under Trump 2.0. They talk about the Biden administration's bimodal approach of collaborating with China while trying to threaten it, the regional alliance structure, how Trump appears to be positioning himself toward China in his new administration, how the US might navigate trade upheaval given the lack of domestic manufacturing, consumption and climate change, and more. Don't forget to listen to our episode on Jake's brief "A Program for Progressive China Policy". Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, Prestige Head

0:07.0

Hello, Prestige Heads, and welcome to American Prestige. I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend and comrade Derek Davidson.

0:27.8

And we're very excited to welcome back to the podcast today. Jake Werner. Jake is presently the acting director of the East Asia program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.

0:37.7

And we invited Jake to give us an update on U.S.-China relations and also to talk about

0:42.5

where things are going with Trump or really where they might go.

0:46.0

So Jake, thank you for joining us.

0:48.5

Great to be back on.

0:49.8

So our glorious president, Joseph R. Biden, is shuffling off the White House's stage to

0:59.5

parts- He's heading to the big executive mansion upstate.

1:02.3

Yeah, exactly. So how have China-U.S. relations been going in the last few months of Biden's administration.

1:11.9

How would you characterize Biden's approach to China generally? And then we could use it as a

1:18.4

starting point to start talking about Trump. Yeah. It's a little, there's competing tendencies

1:27.3

in the Biden approach to China. More or less,

1:30.9

what they wanted to do was to exacerbate the structural forces driving the two countries

1:37.9

towards conflict, but they wanted to do that without creating any conflict. And so there's a certain degree of, I think,

1:48.0

contradiction in what Biden has been doing,

1:50.3

a certain degree of self-deception.

1:52.1

And that actually shows up really well in the last month or so.

1:56.8

We just heard yesterday that the Science and Technology

2:00.2

Agreement that had been the first bilateral agreement between the U.S. and China since after they reestablished official diplomatic relations.

2:09.9

So this goes back 45 years.

2:14.7

And it had been kind of a political football.

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