Everybody welcome to week eight of this assess

This week is a bit of a departure more than usual because this is our first non-network show

That we are watching and I'm actually surprised it was

This one was our first on network show. I thought it was gonna be Ray Donovan would be the first premium cable show

We watch but um this was kind of Matt's idea

We have Matt Christmas on talk about Oz Matt. Hello. Hello. This is um, so this is like I think one of the only things I've watched that I have like

Bad memories of like I hated it when I watched it, but now I like it

Yeah, like when I what I think it was because I watched it in the mid early mid

2000s and it was like I'd already seen some parameters and I was just I saw this and I was like

This fucking sucks because it's not surprised. It's not like prestige really. It's an affect show and I expected a prestige show and got an affect show

But now knowing what I know now what I watch it. I'm like this fucking rocks

They're willing to go buck wild and what's most exciting about Oz is cuz so Oz came out in 1997 two years before the sopranos and

It was at a time when

Television had been around long enough that there was going to be this move to make it a more

substantial

genre like a more substantial art form than it had been TV shows weren't just gonna be about

The thing that they were on the surface, you know like cop shows are just before that cop shows were about cops

Dr. Shows are about doctors

And it was in the mid 90s when people said well shows should actually be about more than that, you know

They should try to just to go higher because we're not reading books anymore. That's it's gay

So give us something more

Media in our television diet and no one really knew how to do that at first and Tom Fontana

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