Hello everybody, we are back with a bonus episode for you this week.

This time it's me and Matt joining you with a guest who has joined us.

We are speaking with journalist Vincent Bevin, about his newly released book, The Jakarta

Method about the Indonesian genocide in the early 1960s and the long shadow its cast

over American foreign policy and really pretty much the lives of everyone on the planet

that we lead continuing into the 21st century.

So Vincent, thank you very much for joining us today.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

I guess like just like to start off with like from because you know your book is kind

of about how this is like a major forgotten chapter in the history of the 20th century

and the history of this country certainly.

But just to start from like the broadest possible perspective, what was the Indonesian

genocide?

When did it happen?

Like who carried it out and who did they kill and why?

Yeah, so this was as you said very important but forgotten I think it's probably the most

important turning point in the Cold War and probably the most important victory for the

side that ultimately won which was the the construction of sort of a capitalist world order.

But it happened in 1965 it was the US assisted execution of approximately one million innocent

people.

These were mostly members of the Indonesian Communist Party which was the largest party

in the world at the time and it was an unarmed moderate party that had one elections for

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