Hello everybody. Welcome to, I don't know what week this is, probably like week nine or ten of this is sus, but we've been on a little bit of a, I don't know if it feels right to call premium cable. I mean, technically these last two shows were doing including this one on premium cable.

Specifically the showtime network, but I think the shows on showtime network they need to be described a different way than premium cable.

I mean, this is, so we watched billions this week. I have an amber here to talk about billions.

Yeah. Thank you for having me by the way.

My pleasure. I like, I don't know what I would describe the show to. They're like USA network shows kind of better.

Like Felix and I are obsessed with USA network shows too because they're so like their own genre and they're so like ridiculous in a very unique way.

And this felt it wasn't as like as ridiculous as a USA network show, but it was closer to USA than HBO.

Absolutely. Like I always, so Meghan Markle always fascinating because I thought like, is there a better symbol of this era than a USA network?

Star marrying into a royal family? That's like perfect. That's perfect. The evil angle of empire in the USA network to get like finally merged.

Yeah. The USA network empire and the English empire. Sure.

Yeah. But like, yeah, no USA network shows are hilarious to us. And I always, I always thought about like a type of person to watch us.

I was thinking about like an old friend I had like 12 years ago. Like when I was a freshly-mended adult, I had a friend who he wasn't sheltered. Like he had a girlfriend and shit.

But he was like, dude, do you watch covert affairs? I was like, no. No one does. Literally no one does.

And he was like, the girl's a girl on it's really hot. It's like, pornography is like easy to find.

Yeah. That's such a like, oh, it's like a weird excuse. It's like, that's not why you watch it. You like this show. Like my thing is that I had my ex brother-in-law loved Bird Notice.

Oh my, that's the funniest one to me. Like, he loved Bird Notice. And I think he felt a little bit better about it because there was kind of a tongue and cheek thing to it.

Like it is, it was like a little bit self-aware. But that doesn't mean being self-aware and ridiculous doesn't mean you're not ridiculous.

But it was like, I think it's like the presence of Bruce Campbell gave him permission to be like, well, you know, I have some ironic distance from this show.

Yeah. No, you don't do. You love Bird Notice. You're a guy that loves Bird Notice.

Yeah. Yeah. And I always like, it's like, Bruce Campbell allowed a lot of people. I think Bird Notice was probably the most widely watched.

But then again, it's like, I don't think anyone's watching these shows. But then, yeah, you meet just like, does this as a people in your life who are like, dude, you ever watch suits?

It's like there are people watching this shit. But, you know, similar, this is why Showtime is the USA Network, like a Tonyer USA Network, because I didn't think that anyone watched Ray Donovan.

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