Welcome to another bonus episode of the Tech Mem Ride Home.

This is sort of a service journalism sort of a bonus episode because as you all know you know I took most of

last week off and who knew that it was going to be the busiest news week of the tech calendar last week. I felt bad because obviously

I you know was doing Thanksgiving things. I feel like I sort of left y'all hanging in terms of the chronology, the

tick-talk of what actually ended up happening with the Sam Altman saga. So I

reached out to Alex Conrad from Forbes to literally just jump on with me and let's go through the timeline so that I don't feel like I dropped the ball.

I feel like at least you all have an understanding of what happened.

So Alex, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me.

That was, you know what the thing that that weekend reminded me of was the whole Silicon Valley

Bank weekend, right?

Where all the sudden things were crazy and then almost by Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday everything was fixed and it was over.

But crazy, what, four or five days?

Yeah, it was basically five days.

Four, mostly to get the resolution because we kind of had answers early Wednesday morning, late Tuesday night, if like me, you know, you were you

were working in the small hours of the morning.

So again, I just want to I want to do the chronology to make sure that we didn't drop anything.

So let's start in the way back with the idea that as we know, open AI was originally a nonprofit, sort of a Switzerland of AI development that then, because there's so much capital needed to develop AI technology, created a for-profit arm.

But the for-profit arm was underneath the nonprofit, which was controlled by a board of directors.

Do we know, I mean, one of the things,

and you can address this right now

or we can get into it later,

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