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Bonus: The Psychology Behind Parasocial Relationships (Cracks in the Fandom)

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

This bonus episode is a chance to step back and make sense of everything that just unfolded in Cracks in the Fandom. If you listened to the series, you saw how an Instagram unfollow spiraled into harassment, infighting, and full-on chaos inside the SVU fandom. This series was petty, confusing , and pretty revealing about how people form attachments online. I wanted to understand why this happens. Why someone can feel personally betrayed by an actor they don't even know. So I reached out to Bradley J. Bond, a professor at the University of San Diego who studies parasocial relationships for a living. He breaks down what these one-sided bonds actually are, why they feel real, and how they can slide from harmless to unhealthy faster than we think. Copyright Takedown Update:My attorney has already filed a counterclaim. Patreon will let me put the episodes back up after the standard 10-business-day window. And Spotify is working on restoring the episodes promptly. I’ll keep you updated. Thank you for supporting the show. Without you, I couldn't fight these frivolous legal challenges. Javier Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

True Story Media.

0:07.2

Hey guys, I wanted to give you an update on the cracks in the fandom series.

0:11.3

It has been down from Patreon and Spotify because Megan Walsh filed a copyright complaint.

0:17.8

Well, rest assured, my attorneys quickly responded and the episodes will be back

0:23.9

soon on Patreon. And, you know, before we talk about the bonus episode that we're about to hear

0:30.3

today, because we're going to talk about parisocial relationships and we're going to hear from

0:34.9

an expert about it, I want to address some of the things that this series cracks in the fandom taught me.

0:41.9

And it surprised me in ways that I didn't expect.

0:44.4

I learned a lot from this series.

0:48.1

Reporting on Megan Walsh forced me to confront some uncomfortable truths.

0:52.5

At first glance, she didn't seem credible, right?

0:56.1

Her claims were scattered and emotional and honestly pretty hard to follow and seemed kind of petty.

1:04.0

But here's the thing. Megan wasn't just a victim. She also contributed to the chaos. She amplified it.

1:10.7

And in some moments, she manipulated the narrative so that it could fit her point of view. It reminded me of breaking up a fight. If you freeze the action, just at the right moment. I mean, the last person to get hit could look like the victim.

1:33.2

But if you zoom out, you see that people had been throwing punches this whole time, too.

1:39.9

So it was a really complicated story that I felt was important to tell.

1:44.6

Now, not everyone who listened to the series felt the same way.

1:48.6

A lot of my audience said, hey, this seems childish.

1:53.5

This seems like watching bum fights on the Internet,

1:57.1

and why are you giving these people a platform?

2:04.0

And, you know, I've sat with that critique for a while because that question, why give these people a platform? Well, that question could apply to basically any story that I do or any

2:10.4

story that any podcaster or true crime podcaster does. Like, why do people obsess and report about serial killers? Why did we even

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